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		<title>Khopper: New page: == Workshop Session Notes == Healthcare and Give me my damn data  Adrian Gropper, Dean Landsman, Charles Andres, Robin , Bob Wayland, Robin Lubbock  Do we want VRM to have an intermediate ...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: == Workshop Session Notes == Healthcare and Give me my damn data  Adrian Gropper, Dean Landsman, Charles Andres, Robin , Bob Wayland, Robin Lubbock  Do we want VRM to have an intermediate ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Workshop Session Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
Healthcare and Give me my damn data&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrian Gropper, Dean Landsman, Charles Andres, Robin , Bob Wayland, Robin Lubbock&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want VRM to have an intermediate victory (feds, service provider, )&lt;br /&gt;
options:&lt;br /&gt;
A. Give me my damn data&lt;br /&gt;
B. What does it legally or socially mean (privacy, TOS, laws) to say GMMDD&lt;br /&gt;
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VRM Aggregator&lt;br /&gt;
Identity Management (who&amp;#039;s authorize)&lt;br /&gt;
Protocols (how are you going to take the data and move it?)&lt;br /&gt;
Security&lt;br /&gt;
Financial incentives (sponsorship)&lt;br /&gt;
Certification&lt;br /&gt;
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Rel button came and went&lt;br /&gt;
Privacy importance&lt;br /&gt;
Collaboration or open networking?&lt;br /&gt;
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Twitter (closed API)&lt;br /&gt;
Identica (open API)&lt;br /&gt;
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Closed: (proprietary, limited subscribers)&lt;br /&gt;
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Point: if the structure existed, VRM would emerge as a bi-product&lt;br /&gt;
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maybe generate the data first and VRM emerges&lt;br /&gt;
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VRM is context sensitive. One of the reasons it is difficult to describe what is and is not&lt;br /&gt;
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80/20 rule works against the interest of people (ref: healthcare)  -- 20% spend all the money.&lt;br /&gt;
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What is the data?&lt;br /&gt;
Who owns it?&lt;br /&gt;
2 defs:&lt;br /&gt;
- give me data that you would share with anyone (partner = me)&lt;br /&gt;
- give me everything and after that I might tell you to delete all information. In other words, it&amp;#039;s up to me to decide what information you can keep regardless of whether it&amp;#039;s erroneous or not. There&amp;#039;s no reason for you to keep my information going forward once I have a  copy except as required by law to protect yourself) (but doctors are required by law to hold on to everything, but you can limit access going forward (outside a court order).&lt;br /&gt;
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laws of data access in medical&lt;br /&gt;
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RE: Experian -- law says you have to provide credit reports to users&lt;br /&gt;
Give it to me in a convenient form.&lt;br /&gt;
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Re: for patient, proactively share it with whom I please&lt;br /&gt;
now: sharing data within medical community is free, outside, there is often a cost.&lt;br /&gt;
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Electronic exchange&lt;br /&gt;
accept my electronic identity&lt;br /&gt;
don&amp;#039;t have to explain why&lt;br /&gt;
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ID (name)  backed by trusted IdProvider&lt;br /&gt;
where to send the data (and what data to send)&lt;br /&gt;
format follows standard&lt;br /&gt;
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Eprescribing: removes the patient as an intermediary choosing their pharmacy.&lt;br /&gt;
I want it sent to CVS.... etc.  restricts where the prescription is sent.&lt;br /&gt;
no comparison shopping or&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Khopper</name></author>
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