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		<title>DonMarti: /* boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders */</title>
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		<updated>2006-12-16T03:49:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 03:49, 16 December 2006&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I&amp;#039;m thinking about drafting some boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I&amp;#039;m thinking about drafting some boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Using purchase orders to make purchases could be a useful VRM tool.  When you use a business credit card to buy something, the only side that has a chance to throw legal requirements into the deal is the vendor side.  Use a purchase order and your company&#039;s terms apply.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Two other posters on the same thread mention one organization and some other companies that are already using the PO to ensure that the vendor won&#039;t slip  software with a one-sided license into a deal.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>DonMarti</name></author>
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		<title>Dsearls at 20:15, 15 December 2006</title>
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		<updated>2006-12-15T20:15:40Z</updated>

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== boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2006-December/011756.html From Don Marti on the ] [http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists linux elitists list]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;begin Rick Moen quotation of Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:01:59PM -0800:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;To very slightly misquote Douglas Adams, &amp;quot;To summarize the summary of a summary: mulish hardware companies are a problem.&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Some if it is just plain corporate inertia -- sometimes it&amp;#039;s easier for Management to put a developer to work trying to play catchup maintaining a proprietary driver than to come up with a GPL release policy.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;In the early days of LCD panels, some vendors redefined a &amp;quot;good&amp;quot; panel as one with fewer than n bad pixels.  Buyers defended themselves with &amp;quot;no bad pixels&amp;quot; terms in purchase orders.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;A vendor sales person with a signed purchase order from you is a powerful tool for shaping vendor policy your way.  You&amp;#039;re talking someone who knows how to persuade, who knows who the players at the company are, who has an incentive to make things come out your way.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;I&amp;#039;m thinking about drafting some boilerplate text that hardware customers could start sticking into purchase orders.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dsearls</name></author>
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