October 28 2008 Conference Call - Revision history

Christophercarfi: /* Follow up */

2008-10-28T22:52:30Z

Follow up

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	== Follow up ==		== Follow up ==
	* More discussion on personal data store		* More discussion on personal data store
			* Chris will take to-do to update the state transition diagram on the r-button spec page

Khopper: /* Decision */

2008-10-28T22:35:12Z

Decision

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	* An r-button will close when a user has taken a relationship action, regardless if the vendor subscribes to the supporting service, or is even aware of VRM		* An r-button will close when a user has taken a relationship action, regardless if the vendor subscribes to the supporting service, or is even aware of VRM
	* An action is a "VRM action" if it is provided by a relationship service that is based on VRM-compliant standards		* An action is a "VRM action" if it is provided by a relationship service that is based on VRM-compliant standards
	* A relationship service based on a VRM-compliant standard must allow a vendor to participate (e.g. reciprocate the user intention)		* A relationship service based on a VRM-compliant standard must allow a vendor to participate (e.g. reciprocate the user intention), thereby making the closing of the r-button meaningful. In other words, a true VRM action must allow the vendor to agree to your terms in a standard way

	== Follow up ==		== Follow up ==
	* More discussion on personal data store		* More discussion on personal data store

Khopper: /* Decision */

2008-10-28T22:31:49Z

Decision

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	== Decision ==		== Decision ==
	* There are three states to the r-button: not visible, visible + open, and visible + closed		* There are three states to the r-button: not visible, visible + open, and visible + closed
	* The r-button is not visible if there are no VRM relationship actions available to take on this screen/page		* The r-button is not visible if there are no VRM relationship actions available for the user to take on this screen/page
	* The r-button is visible and open if VRM relationship actions are available (with an entity represented on or of the page), but none have been taken by the user		* The r-button is visible and open if VRM relationship actions are available (with an entity represented on or in the page), but none have been taken by the user
	* The r-button is visible and closed if a user has taken a VRM relationship action associated with a represented entity		* The r-button is visible and closed if a user has taken a VRM relationship action associated with a represented entity
	* An r-button will close when a user has taken a relationship action, regardless if the vendor subscribes or is even aware		* An r-button will close when a user has taken a relationship action, regardless if the vendor subscribes to the supporting service, or is even aware of VRM
	* A relationship service based on a VRM~~-compliant standard must allow a vendor to participate~~
	* An action is a "VRM action" if it is provided by a relationship service that is based on VRM-compliant standards		* An action is a "VRM action" if it is provided by a relationship service that is based on VRM-compliant standards
			* A relationship service based on a VRM-compliant standard must allow a vendor to participate (e.g. reciprocate the user intention)

	== Follow up ==		== Follow up ==
	* More discussion on personal data store		* More discussion on personal data store

Khopper: still working more

2008-10-28T22:29:39Z

still working more

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	* There should be two states: one open and one closed		* There should be two states: one open and one closed

			Doc:
			* We need to reach a temporary agreement has two states or more than two states
			* What we don't do: take your money, checkbox, but that's all there is to the relationship ==> don't want this to be replicated on the customer side

	~~Doc~~		== Decision ==
	~~We need~~ to ~~reach a temporary agreement has two states or more than two states~~		* There are three states to the r-button: not visible, visible + open, and visible + closed
	~~What we don't do:~~ take ~~your money, checkbox~~, but ~~that's all there~~ is to the relationship ~~==> don't want this~~ to ~~be replicated~~ on ~~the customer side~~		* The r-button is not visible if there are no VRM relationship actions available to take on this screen/page
			* The r-button is visible and open if VRM relationship actions are available (with an entity represented on or of the page), but none have been taken by the user
			* The r-button is visible and closed if a user has taken a VRM relationship action associated with a represented entity
			* An r-button will close when a user has taken a relationship action, regardless if the vendor subscribes or is even aware
			* A relationship service based on a VRM-compliant standard must allow a vendor to participate
			* An action is a "VRM action" if it is provided by a relationship service that is based on VRM-compliant standards

	More discussion on personal data store		== Follow up ==
			* More discussion on personal data store
	~~ka-chunk / two-sided~~

	~~how can this be bi-lateral~~
	~~Red/gray~~

Khopper: still working...

2008-10-28T22:13:46Z

still working...

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	== Points ==		== Points ==
	Asa: concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.		Asa:
	~~Two~~ states: one open and one closed		* concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.
	~~Which side represents which?~~		* There should be two states: one open and one closed
	~~Why and what is a missing piece?~~
	~~What do the colors represent?~~

	~~Reach a temporary agreement has two states or more than two states~~

	Doc		Doc
			We need to reach a temporary agreement has two states or more than two states
	What we don't do: take your money, checkbox, but that's all there is to the relationship ==> don't want this to be replicated on the customer side		What we don't do: take your money, checkbox, but that's all there is to the relationship ==> don't want this to be replicated on the customer side

			More discussion on personal data store

	ka-chunk / two-sided		ka-chunk / two-sided

Khopper: draft

2008-10-28T21:59:05Z

draft

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	* Asa Hardcastle		* Asa Hardcastle
	* Christopher Carfi		* Christopher Carfi
			* Drummond Reed

	== Points ==		== Points ==

Khopper: /* Attendees */

2008-10-28T21:57:53Z

Attendees

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	* Charles Andres		* Charles Andres
	* Asa Hardcastle		* Asa Hardcastle
	* Christopher Carfi ~~(I'm here, Keith)~~		* Christopher Carfi

	== Points ==		== Points ==

Khopper: more draft

2008-10-28T21:57:35Z

more draft

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	* Christopher Carfi (I'm here, Keith)		* Christopher Carfi (I'm here, Keith)

			== Points ==
	Asa: concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.		Asa: concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.
	Two states: one open and one closed		Two states: one open and one closed

Christophercarfi: /* Attendees */

2008-10-28T21:53:17Z

Attendees

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	* Asa Hardcastle		* Asa Hardcastle
	* Christopher Carfi (I'm here, Keith)		* Christopher Carfi (I'm here, Keith)
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	Asa: concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.		Asa: concerned about the increasing complexity of states. Closing of magnets symbolizing relationship = a relationship action has taken place.

Christophercarfi: /* Attendees */

2008-10-28T21:37:50Z

Attendees

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	* Charles Andres		* Charles Andres
	* Asa Hardcastle		* Asa Hardcastle
			* Christopher Carfi (I'm here, Keith)
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