May 16 2007 Meeting notes - Revision history

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	Rather than do a standard subscribable podcast the calls are available for the list to download or stream. They are posted as mp3 files and can be accessed as follows:		Rather than do a standard subscribable podcast the calls are available for the list to download or stream. They are posted as mp3 files and can be accessed as follows:

			===May 9, 2007===
			*[[meeting notes 2007 05 09]]

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	~~==Notes==~~

	~~===Agenda===~~


	~~Lot of action and energy picked up.~~

	~~Iain Henderson and Alan Mitchell have made good progress with the "flow chart". Many thanks to them.~~

	==Action Items==		==Action Items==

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	These protocols are being highlighted in the work that Iain and Alan are working on at the moment.		These protocols are being highlighted in the work that Iain and Alan are working on at the moment.

			http://www.politicopia.com is doing interesting things with VRM for reinventing relaltionships between politicians and constituents. We have an opportunity to equip a democracy by undermining the authority of the cronyism.

	==Status==		==Status==

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	Why can't my shopping cart be used at more than one site?		Why can't my shopping cart be used at more than one site?

	A customer-~~contolled~~ UPC offers the potential to enable transactions across vendors.		A customer-controlled UPC offers the potential to enable transactions across vendors.


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	What are the primary limitations in this system? We need code so that there will be services and capability on both sides.		What are the primary limitations in this system? We need code so that there will be services and capability on both sides.

			These protocols are being highlighted in the work that Iain and Alan are working on at the moment.

	==Status==		==Status==

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	A customer-contolled UPC offers the potential to enable transactions across vendors.		A customer-contolled UPC offers the potential to enable transactions across vendors.


			Think: Problems, Policies, Protocols as a triplet for each use case.

			What are the primary limitations in this system? We need code so that there will be services and capability on both sides.

	==Status==		==Status==

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			A customer-contolled UPC offers the potential to enable transactions across vendors.

	==Status==		==Status==

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	TagCommons (Tom Gerber, et al). They have a single blog entry with a canonical list of use cases. You /can't/ read that list and not come away with a clear understanding of what they are trying to solve.		TagCommons (Tom Gerber, et al). They have a single blog entry with a canonical list of use cases. You /can't/ read that list and not come away with a clear understanding of what they are trying to solve.

			===Wrap up===
			Coming up.

			*something next to SuperNova at the end of June.
			*Doc's going to be visiting with Google on Checkout (informal)
			*In the UK, we are getting a bit of a critical mass and so sometime around Guade c (Gnome-related) in mid-July.

			As we start compartmentalizing what we are doing: law, technology, identity, etc., we need to think about how we coordinate that.

			XDI is right up this ally. You may as well call it the VRM protocol. We should have a 1.0 spec out this summer. All of the VRM access-controlled data services are enabled by XDI, so this should be a huge enabler.

			Why can't my shopping cart be used at more than one site?

	==Status==		==Status==

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	# Must be compatible with the Seven Laws of Identity		# Must be compatible with the Seven Laws of Identity

	One of Kim's law's is that unless it works with any and all protocols that might be used, it isn't a meta-system. (And it needs to be a meta-system)		One of Kim's law's is that unless it works with any and all protocols that might be used, it isn't a meta-system. (And it needs to be a meta-system).

			Is VRM about relationship management or a go-to-market tool?

			Is this upturning capitalism? Making the users go out into the market? Why isn't it more useful to just use Froogle?

			The idea is to get it out of silos and give users control of it. Not to give vendors control over what they can and cannot share.<nowiki>[not sure I got that right. -joe]</nowiki>

			We need a short, specific list of use cases so we can start to identify technologies and protocols for supporting it.

			TagCommons (Tom Gerber, et al). They have a single blog entry with a canonical list of use cases. You /can't/ read that list and not come away with a clear understanding of what they are trying to solve.

	==Status==		==Status==