March 05 2008 Conference Call - Revision history

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Open Discussion

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	* IT and such		* IT and such
	** Kevin Marks looking at Google Groups		** Dean spoke with Kevin Marks re the right team of Google people looking at Google Groups (our difficulties may be a test case for Google to repair some of the errors and mishaps that seem to plague ours, and perhaps others', group functions)
	** It appears people are signed/signed up, but can't sign in		** It appears people are signed/signed up, but can't sign in; sometimes those already signed up just disappear; e-mail seems to be haphazard in reaching some but never the entirety of a subgroup

	* Overlap with [http://www.dataportability.org Data Portability]		* Overlap with [http://www.dataportability.org Data Portability]

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Attendees

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Conference Call Notes

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	==Conference Call Notes==		==Conference Call Notes==
	Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008 <br>		Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008 <br>
	Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008		Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008<br>
	Edited ever so sightly by Dean Landsman, March 5, 2008		Edited ever so sightly by Dean Landsman, March 5, 2008

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Conference Call Notes

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	Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008 <br>		Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008 <br>
	Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008		Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008
			Edited ever so sightly by Dean Landsman, March 5, 2008

	==IRC==		==IRC==

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Usage Committee (Adriana)

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	===Usage Committee (Adriana)===		===Usage Committee (Adriana)===
	* Trying to organize people to get together F2F		* Trying to organize people to get together F2F - regular monthly [http://vrmhub.pbwiki.com/ VRM Hub meetings]
	* Doing monthly get-togethers in London		* Doing monthly get-togethers in London
	* Organizing a smaller gathering on 15April in London (goal: identify problems that VRM can address for real people)		* Organizing a smaller gathering on 15April in London (goal: identify problems that VRM can address for real people)

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Conference Call Notes

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	Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008		Drafted by Christopher Carfi, March 5, 2008 <br>
	Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008		Added to by Adriana Lukas, March 5, 2008

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Events

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	===Events===		===Events===
	* European Meeting last week		* European Meeting last week - part of monthly VRM Hub social meetings in London. [http://vrmhub.pbwiki.com/March+meeting+sign+up Next one] is on 27th March, 2008.

	* VRM Itch, '''15-April-2008''' in London - Adriana
			* [http://vrmhub.pbwiki.com/Scratch+your+VRM+itch Scratch your VRM Itch], '''15-April-2008''' in London - Adriana
	** For those who have been following VRM for a while		** For those who have been following VRM for a while
	** For those who want to make VRM work		** For those who want to make VRM work
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	* Upcoming EU Identity Conference in Munich		* Upcoming EU Identity Conference in Munich
	** 22April to ~~26April~~		** 22April to 25April
	** "VRM day" will likely be 22April		** "VRM day" will likely be 22April

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Vision Committee (Dean)

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	*at the moment too many definitions, bunch of discussions in lots of places		*at the moment too many definitions, bunch of discussions in lots of places
	*need to have some degree of definition otherwise VRM becomes kind of where CRM is i.e. fragmented.		*need to have some degree of definition otherwise VRM becomes kind of where CRM is i.e. fragmented.

			Bart: flagged up a paper about next level of CRM by O'Reilly, which mentions VRM and Doc Searls, business values for a consumer and a value for a vendor
			Dean: VRM is not just business

	===Standards Committee (Joe)===		===Standards Committee (Joe)===

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Vision Committee (Dean)

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	===Vision Committee (Dean)===		===Vision Committee (Dean)===

			*Ven diagram of individual and enterprise perspectives - the overlap should be larger that than the spare space; much should be shared although different angles
			*Chris joined that group (visions committee) as he understands CRM and its beginnings
			*how code would end up coming into or out of the vision
			*next Wednesday afternoon (12th March) a meeting with, Doc, Keith, Chris and Sean in Cambridge â incorporating user and the enterprise â coding something very vaguely,
			*at the moment too many definitions, bunch of discussions in lots of places
			*need to have some degree of definition otherwise VRM becomes kind of where CRM is i.e. fragmented.

	===Standards Committee (Joe)===		===Standards Committee (Joe)===