January 28 2009 Conference Call - Revision history

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 Working to get the site moved over. http://www.projectvrm.net Please take a look and get feedback to Deal mailto:dean@land-com.net .
-===Upcoming Calls===
+===Social Media===
 *Thursdays 10:30AM PST: R-button
 *Tuesdays 1:30PM PST: ListenLog
-*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 1/21) 10AM PST: Standards committee call
+*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 1/21) 10AM PST Standards committee call
 ==Next Meeting==
 *[[Feb 14 2009 Conference Call]]

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	===VRM website===		===VRM website===
	Working to get the site moved over. http://www.projectvrm.net		Working to get the site moved over. http://www.projectvrm.net Please take a look and get feedback to Deal mailto:dean@land-com.net .

	===Agenda===		===Agenda===

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	But some of the players only want to back a disruption that they can win. So, we have to present the opportunity to be the winner in this new market without actually empowering that explicitly--we don't want to create a new monopolist.		But some of the players only want to back a disruption that they can win. So, we have to present the opportunity to be the winner in this new market without actually empowering that explicitly--we don't want to create a new monopolist.

			===VRM website===
			Working to get the site moved over. http://www.projectvrm.net

	===Agenda===		===Agenda===

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	===Upcoming Calls===		===Upcoming Calls===
	*~~Thursday~~ 10:30AM PST: R-button		*Thursdays 10:30AM PST: R-button
	*Tuesdays 1:30PM PST: ListenLog		*Tuesdays 1:30PM PST: ListenLog
	*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 1/21) 10AM PST: Standards committee call		*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 1/21) 10AM PST: Standards committee call

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2009-01-28T18:05:00Z

Attendees

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	* Doc Searls		* Doc Searls
	* Alan Mitchell		* Alan Mitchell
			* Charles Andres

	==Notes==		==Notes==

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	Stanford in the spring?		Stanford in the spring?
	March 2nd, 3rd, 4th. (M/T/W)		March 2nd, 3rd, 4th. (M/T/W)
	Following IIW structure. 1/2 day Monday, baselining		Following IIW structure. 1/2 day Monday, baselining, project Briefs.
	Two full days T/W		Two full days T/W
	Dinners M/T		Dinners M/T
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	===Graham Hill===		===Graham Hill===
	A few cycles sucked away responding to his slam: The four failings of VRM. http://www.customerthink.com/blog/four_fallacies_vendor_relationship_management He took VRM as sort of a socialist planned economy thing, which is wrong. So Doc responded explaining why: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vrm/2009/01/25/a-little-understanding-goes-a-short-way/		A few cycles sucked away responding to his slam: The four failings of VRM. http://www.customerthink.com/blog/four_fallacies_vendor_relationship_management He took VRM as sort of a socialist planned economy thing, which is wrong. So Doc responded explaining why: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vrm/2009/01/25/a-little-understanding-goes-a-short-way/

			===CRM / VRM Workshop===
			Have a conference? Risks? What happens when the big providers come in.

			Something towards a qualified sales lead is sort of the best output of VRM into CRM.

			How quickly could we have a draft specification in place?

			The purpose of a workshop would be to make things work. To get people together to work out the details.

			In the beginning it should be a small add on to the systems from Oracle and SugarCRM. It's the kind of system that they should say "Of course, we'd love to have that." (Where they is both the software vendor and the software client).

			But some of the players only want to back a disruption that they can win. So, we have to present the opportunity to be the winner in this new market without actually empowering that explicitly--we don't want to create a new monopolist.

	===Agenda===		===Agenda===

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	===Graham Hill===		===Graham Hill===
	A few cycles sucked away responding to his slam: The four failings of VRM.		A few cycles sucked away responding to his slam: The four failings of VRM. http://www.customerthink.com/blog/four_fallacies_vendor_relationship_management He took VRM as sort of a socialist planned economy thing, which is wrong. So Doc responded explaining why: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/vrm/2009/01/25/a-little-understanding-goes-a-short-way/

	===Agenda===		===Agenda===

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2009-01-28T17:44:02Z

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	===~~MyDex~~===		===VRM.org===
	Meeting re: VRM.org with Andy Updegrove in Boston. Who has probably been involved in many many things like this.		Meeting re: VRM.org with Andy Updegrove in Boston. Who has probably been involved in many many things like this.

			===Graham Hill===
			A few cycles sucked away responding to his slam: The four failings of VRM.

	===Agenda===		===Agenda===

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2009-01-28T17:43:00Z

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	==Notes==		==Notes==

	===~~Next face~~ to ~~face~~===		===Principles===
			Doc is working on it. It keeps getting closer, even though it has been "the next few days" for a while now... Cluetrain is done and to the publiser. That helped get the principles locked down and is now off of Doc's plate.

			===NPR Tuner===
			Nice exercise in getting a bunch of technologies working together. Asa Hardcastle and Markus Sabadello are helping out. Good to have geeks talking to geeks getting stuff made. If we have any problems, it will most likely be political, with the rallying of stations and NPR central.

			===Face to Face===
			Trying to lock down a venue.

	Stanford in the spring?		Stanford in the spring?
	March 2nd, 3rd, 4th. (M/T/W)		March 2nd, 3rd, 4th. (M/T/W)
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	===~~=Conflicts=~~===		===MyDex===
	*March 13-17 SXSW		Meeting re: VRM.org with Andy Updegrove in Boston. Who has probably been involved in many many things like this.
	*Third week of Feb IMA
	*April 12th Easter		===Agenda===
	*March 26 Kinneret		# Standards Committee
	*March 24-26, Community Networking
	*May 18-20 IIW

	===Upcoming Calls===		===Upcoming Calls===

Joe.andrieu: /* Attendees */

2009-01-28T17:37:56Z

Attendees

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	* Drummond Reed		* Drummond Reed
	* Doc Searls		* Doc Searls
			* Alan Mitchell

	==Notes==		==Notes==